Somebody once told me that the difference between going to school in America and going to school in Australia (or any other non-American country) is that you don't have to worry about being shot in class. I've been in college for more than two years now, and there have been so many school shootings. To be honest, it makes me on edge. I have a CWP (Concealed Weapons Permit) but federal law prevents me from practicing the 2nd amendment while on a school campus (among other places, such as a post office and police station). If the law permitted it as well as school policy, I would pack every single day I went to school, for the sake of my own protection. Too many school shootings and too many helpless students. I think this is a very legitimate question and I think more people should ask it. Please share your honest, insightful opinion about this question and the reasons it either should be legal or should not be. Keep in mind too that I said students with CWPs, not just any student.
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Did you know that the Virginia Tech shooter got those guns legally? If all someone has to do to carry a gun around school, is get a permit, I think you'll see the number of school shootings double. Bad idea. Im not a fan of people owning guns in the first place, much less a bunch of students who are already on edge from homework, exams, etc. The sollution to all these school shootings definitely ISNT to make getting weapons easier, and more legal than it already is.
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No way! I don't care, permit or not. Guns are out of control in America - one twitch of a finger, and someone has lost their life. You can't take that back. It is ludicrous how everyone thinks that having a gun will stop the crime - it will only make it worse! - two wrongs don't make a right. The people in charge of the USA really need to come up with an idea to stop the gun madness.
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Actually, they have had school shootings in Australia. Just not as many. First of all, you have a country half again the size of the US with a population of about 1/10th of ours. That alone would provide a much lower number of shootings. Combine that with their strong anti-gun laws, and you lower it further. But they still do occur.
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Guns have no place in a civilised society.
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Greetings. of course they should be allowed to carry a piece. but the government will not allow it because it is against you being able to protect yourself. you are supposed to believe that only the government police can do that, never yourself. Note though on the number of school shootings. You are more likely to die from a mistake made by your family doctor or in a hospital then getting shot in America. Doctors 18,000 deaths to 1 by firearms. yet doctors are legal. If students are armed. then how many would try to attack them in school? none. they want helpless victims to kill, not people capable of defending themselves. Same thing on air craft where no one is allowed any means of self protection. Just propaganda of a law against a minor incidence rate crime being made into a big terror threat. Another means to control us and make us cattle and defenseless. Your chance in the real world of being shot in school is much less then your being run over by a tank on the freeway.
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Sounds to me, you already know the answer to this question. The simple fact is when guns are banned from a particular area, be ut a school, office building, park or where ever, the only ones who obey such bans are the ones who wouldn't use a firearm illegally in the first place. For example, at Virginia Tech, a gun free zone did that school alot of good. If there had of been a couple of responsible gun owners on campus, with guns, some or most of those 32 students may be alive today. There have been too mant studies over the years to prove that when concealed carry has been allowed, crime rates drop. (including gun violence). Look at any crime reports, city state of federal, to see I'm right. The FBI Uniform Crime Report would be a good place to start.
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I don't think students carrying guns is going to deter crazy people from shooting up schools. I don't know this for sure, but I figure that most people that shoot up schools are planning on not walking away from it. So on the off chance that a student with a CWP is in the vicinity of the shooting to stop it, I don't see a reason for guns on campus.
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Legitimate question? It was until you brought in the unwarranted assumption that the Second Ammendment somehow gives you a "right" to carry a firearm into your classroom. Even in "Wild West" days, there were many instances where you would be expected to leave your firearms at the door. Don't fall into the false dichotomy trap; we have many other options besides the two extremes of (1) These NRA wackos want firearms totoally unregulated and (2) These gun control wackos want firearms totally prohibited. I have never met a single person who supports either of these extremes, yet each "side" persists in characterizing the "other side" as taking just such a stance. My own position is that (1) we need some reforms in the way we regulate firearms, especially commerce in firearms, (2) if more citizens, well trained in keeping and bearing firearms, carried their weapons with them while going about thier daily business, there would be less violent crime, especially the "going postal" type shooting sprees, and (3) as our government exists by the consent of the governed, the governed must have the mean of withdrawing that consent if government abuses its powers. But let's end this charade of Total Deregulation vs Total Prohibition. Only a few nuts take either position. Most of us want a sane, cohesive body of regulations concerning firearms and we should be working together, not letting glib politicos do this "divide and conquer" on us.
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Let's assume you are talking about college as it's illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to own a handgun. I for one support the right to carry anywhere at anytime. The VT shooter may have bought his guns legally(?) but he broke the law by having them on campus in his dorm so he was already a criminal prior to committing murder. Remember Laws do not prevent crime they provide a means for punishment for comitting a crime. Astralia went thru a major consifaction and destroy period over firearms and are now considering banning many types of knives due to the huge increase of crimes comitted using them sinces the firearms became so hard to get. (look up Knife attack in school And see what you find)
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